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		<title>By: Stephen Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia -- Sorry to take so long to respond. The blog has been experiencing technical difficulties. Also, I have been very busy setting up a new blog just for the stuff I am writing about Hereditary Hemochromatosis. It is called &lt;a href=&quot;http://CelticCurse.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CelticCurse.org&lt;/a&gt; and I am building a collection of links there, pointing to information you might find useful.

I am so sorry to hear of all your troubles. And I am angry to hear yet another case of a doctor telling a woman it is all in her head. Like my wife says: NO! It&#039;s all in my body, that&#039;s where pain is, and that&#039;s where the iron did so much damage, all because the doctors who treated me for various ailments between 1998 and 2008 failed to figure out the root cause.

Sadly, you are not alone experiencing these problems. And tragically, so much of this could be prevented by greater awareness and understanding of hemochromatosis. Over time I hope to do my part to create that greater awareness and understanding of hemochromatosis that we need so badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia &#8212; Sorry to take so long to respond. The blog has been experiencing technical difficulties. Also, I have been very busy setting up a new blog just for the stuff I am writing about Hereditary Hemochromatosis. It is called <a href="http://CelticCurse.org" rel="nofollow">CelticCurse.org</a> and I am building a collection of links there, pointing to information you might find useful.</p>
<p>I am so sorry to hear of all your troubles. And I am angry to hear yet another case of a doctor telling a woman it is all in her head. Like my wife says: NO! It&#8217;s all in my body, that&#8217;s where pain is, and that&#8217;s where the iron did so much damage, all because the doctors who treated me for various ailments between 1998 and 2008 failed to figure out the root cause.</p>
<p>Sadly, you are not alone experiencing these problems. And tragically, so much of this could be prevented by greater awareness and understanding of hemochromatosis. Over time I hope to do my part to create that greater awareness and understanding of hemochromatosis that we need so badly.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia M. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia M. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Stephen,
  I thank you for your research on the XMRV, as I have a friend who told me he thinks I have it.  But, I explained, I don&#039;t know how the virus would be contributed to Hemochromatosis.   Now, I know.  You confirmed there&#039;s a possibility of the two being related.  I am sorry about your wife suffering, as I also have hemochromatosis.   It took several doctors and years of trying to figure out what was wrong with me and then I found a Doctor who said we could check the liver with a biopsy.  Yes, definitely, it proved to be hemochromatosis.  That was in 1992.  Since then, I have been getting phlebotomys consistently and my organs and joints and body has suffered greatly with other symtoms from the disease.  I now am dealing with chronic pancreatitis, memory problems, CFS, high blood pressure, arthritis, you name it, now my kidneys are at a stage 3.  I see a Kidney Specialist in two weeks.  I&#039;ve had pain everyday of my life and I thank God for helping me through each day.  I believe God has given Doctors and people such as you, wisdom to follow through and find out what&#039;s going on.  It&#039;s no fun.  I&#039;ve never been tested for this virus, but, will mention it to one of many of my Doctors.  They may blow me off, as it is in the mind deal.  I continue to walk, work (as much as I can), some exercise and watch my eating habits.  Everyone in my family was tested for hemochromatosis, except my father who had passed, and no one had it.  It attacked my gallbladder and that was disceased and removed and continues to work its way through my body.  I pray one day, people like you will find a way to use the blood they take and be able to give it to patients that need iron.  More testing.  If there&#039;s anything I can do to help the research, I&#039;m here.   I won&#039;t go on, as I&#039;m sure you are swamped.  I&#039;d be happy to talk with your wife as a support system for both of us.  I know we have similar conditions.  I thank you for all you do and the other researchers and will continue to pray for God to give you all wisdom.  Thank you and God Bless you and your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stephen,<br />
  I thank you for your research on the XMRV, as I have a friend who told me he thinks I have it.  But, I explained, I don&#8217;t know how the virus would be contributed to Hemochromatosis.   Now, I know.  You confirmed there&#8217;s a possibility of the two being related.  I am sorry about your wife suffering, as I also have hemochromatosis.   It took several doctors and years of trying to figure out what was wrong with me and then I found a Doctor who said we could check the liver with a biopsy.  Yes, definitely, it proved to be hemochromatosis.  That was in 1992.  Since then, I have been getting phlebotomys consistently and my organs and joints and body has suffered greatly with other symtoms from the disease.  I now am dealing with chronic pancreatitis, memory problems, CFS, high blood pressure, arthritis, you name it, now my kidneys are at a stage 3.  I see a Kidney Specialist in two weeks.  I&#8217;ve had pain everyday of my life and I thank God for helping me through each day.  I believe God has given Doctors and people such as you, wisdom to follow through and find out what&#8217;s going on.  It&#8217;s no fun.  I&#8217;ve never been tested for this virus, but, will mention it to one of many of my Doctors.  They may blow me off, as it is in the mind deal.  I continue to walk, work (as much as I can), some exercise and watch my eating habits.  Everyone in my family was tested for hemochromatosis, except my father who had passed, and no one had it.  It attacked my gallbladder and that was disceased and removed and continues to work its way through my body.  I pray one day, people like you will find a way to use the blood they take and be able to give it to patients that need iron.  More testing.  If there&#8217;s anything I can do to help the research, I&#8217;m here.   I won&#8217;t go on, as I&#8217;m sure you are swamped.  I&#8217;d be happy to talk with your wife as a support system for both of us.  I know we have similar conditions.  I thank you for all you do and the other researchers and will continue to pray for God to give you all wisdom.  Thank you and God Bless you and your family.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please everyone hit the website/blog by Hillary Johnson at www.oslersweb.com and read a great summary of the history of CFIDS and the CDC. Ms. Johnson also has written a monster of a book (1996 and updated) that details the whole history of CFIDS, the CDC and all the rest of the major players - including the wonderful Drs. Cheney and Peterson. Johnson&#039;s book is also titled Osler&#039;s Web. It is well researched and took her many years and something like 10 or more maxed out credit cards to get the full story. The book has stood the test of time and much of what she has written is still applicable. It is a &quot;history&quot; book on CFIDS but she also nails the Retrovirus(es) that were found and understood to possibly cause or be part of a cause for CFIDS. Get her book as it is well worth reading especially in light of the new XMRV discovery and the ongoing damage caused by the CDC directed at CFIDS from the very start. MW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please everyone hit the website/blog by Hillary Johnson at <a href="http://www.oslersweb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.oslersweb.com</a> and read a great summary of the history of CFIDS and the CDC. Ms. Johnson also has written a monster of a book (1996 and updated) that details the whole history of CFIDS, the CDC and all the rest of the major players &#8211; including the wonderful Drs. Cheney and Peterson. Johnson&#8217;s book is also titled Osler&#8217;s Web. It is well researched and took her many years and something like 10 or more maxed out credit cards to get the full story. The book has stood the test of time and much of what she has written is still applicable. It is a &#8220;history&#8221; book on CFIDS but she also nails the Retrovirus(es) that were found and understood to possibly cause or be part of a cause for CFIDS. Get her book as it is well worth reading especially in light of the new XMRV discovery and the ongoing damage caused by the CDC directed at CFIDS from the very start. MW</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone has got their google alerts set to &#039;XMRV&#039;, that&#039;s probably why you&#039;re getting so much traffic!

As to the blood supply, at the recent Dept. of Health and Human Services Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Advisory Committee meeting, Dr. John Coffin, a retrovirologist with 45 years experience, was invited to speak on the recent XMRV findings. I think you can find the videos already split up by topic on youtube, or the whole thing is available on the CFSAC website. Dr. Coffin said that the Japanese Red Cross did an as yet unpublished study on the Japanese blood supply and found a &#039;low incidence&#039; of XMRV. As far as I&#039;m aware, two seperate studies have found XMRV in around 4% of &#039;healthy&#039; controls. The thing is, no one knows if they&#039;re really healthy, ie asymptomatic carriers, or just haven&#039;t got sick yet. Dr. Jerry Holmberg, head of the blood supply, also spoke at the CFSAC meeting.

The CFIDS Association let it be known that there is a federal task force set up to study the issue of XMRV in the US blood supply, with an official statement not been made yet. I think they&#039;re trying to be low key about it to prevent panic before they even find out whether XMRV is in the blood supply or not.

From the CFIDS Association-
&quot;In more recent communications with Dr. Holmberg, he stated that the Blood XMRV Scientific Research Working Group is taking a three-stage approach to its handling of the issues related to XMRV and the possible link to human disease. The first stage will be to standardize and validate laboratory methods and reagents for XMRV testing. This is important since variations in sample collection and laboratory procedures can produce discrepant results. These standardized approaches will be used initially to test 1,200 healthy donors’ blood samples and 100 CFS patients’ blood samples collected by Dr. Judy Mikovits of the Whittemore Peterson Institute. Stage two will assess the prevalence of XMRV in the general population and blood supply, as well as in other CFS patient cohorts. The third stage will be a series of studies to understand how XMRV is transmitted, whether it causes human disease, and how it affects various subgroups of the population.&quot;
http://www.cfids.org/cfidslink/2009/120203.asp

As for the CDC and CFS, I think anyone who&#039;s interested would be well-served to read &#039;Osler&#039;s Web&#039;, by Hillary Johnson. It&#039;s a tour de force; really well done. The CDC diverted millions of dollars appropriated by Congress specifically to study CFS and instead spent it on other programs, office supplies, etc. The GAO and Congress both got involved and did a whole lot of nothing, reassigning the people involved, etc. The director of the CDC, who wasn&#039;t even with the CDC when this happened, had to step down as a sacrifice and the money had to be repaid to the CFS program but nothing really changed. CDC&#039;s approach to CFS for the past 30 years has been that CFS is nothing more than a form of(or different name for) psychoneurosis. 

This attitude continues to this day, with Dr. William Reeves, head of CDC&#039;s CFS program, appearing on Georgia public tv and saying that CFS occurs as a result of stressful divorces and is due to &#039;Women being treated differently in society than men are&#039; which results in &#039;different stress patterns&#039; experienced by men and women due to &#039;women or men’s roles and how they’re functioning in their different parts of society&#039;.
http://sacfs.asn.au/news/2009/09/09_26_transcript_dr_reeves.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone has got their google alerts set to &#8216;XMRV&#8217;, that&#8217;s probably why you&#8217;re getting so much traffic!</p>
<p>As to the blood supply, at the recent Dept. of Health and Human Services Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Advisory Committee meeting, Dr. John Coffin, a retrovirologist with 45 years experience, was invited to speak on the recent XMRV findings. I think you can find the videos already split up by topic on youtube, or the whole thing is available on the CFSAC website. Dr. Coffin said that the Japanese Red Cross did an as yet unpublished study on the Japanese blood supply and found a &#8216;low incidence&#8217; of XMRV. As far as I&#8217;m aware, two seperate studies have found XMRV in around 4% of &#8216;healthy&#8217; controls. The thing is, no one knows if they&#8217;re really healthy, ie asymptomatic carriers, or just haven&#8217;t got sick yet. Dr. Jerry Holmberg, head of the blood supply, also spoke at the CFSAC meeting.</p>
<p>The CFIDS Association let it be known that there is a federal task force set up to study the issue of XMRV in the US blood supply, with an official statement not been made yet. I think they&#8217;re trying to be low key about it to prevent panic before they even find out whether XMRV is in the blood supply or not.</p>
<p>From the CFIDS Association-<br />
&#8220;In more recent communications with Dr. Holmberg, he stated that the Blood XMRV Scientific Research Working Group is taking a three-stage approach to its handling of the issues related to XMRV and the possible link to human disease. The first stage will be to standardize and validate laboratory methods and reagents for XMRV testing. This is important since variations in sample collection and laboratory procedures can produce discrepant results. These standardized approaches will be used initially to test 1,200 healthy donors’ blood samples and 100 CFS patients’ blood samples collected by Dr. Judy Mikovits of the Whittemore Peterson Institute. Stage two will assess the prevalence of XMRV in the general population and blood supply, as well as in other CFS patient cohorts. The third stage will be a series of studies to understand how XMRV is transmitted, whether it causes human disease, and how it affects various subgroups of the population.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.cfids.org/cfidslink/2009/120203.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cfids.org/cfidslink/2009/120203.asp</a></p>
<p>As for the CDC and CFS, I think anyone who&#8217;s interested would be well-served to read &#8216;Osler&#8217;s Web&#8217;, by Hillary Johnson. It&#8217;s a tour de force; really well done. The CDC diverted millions of dollars appropriated by Congress specifically to study CFS and instead spent it on other programs, office supplies, etc. The GAO and Congress both got involved and did a whole lot of nothing, reassigning the people involved, etc. The director of the CDC, who wasn&#8217;t even with the CDC when this happened, had to step down as a sacrifice and the money had to be repaid to the CFS program but nothing really changed. CDC&#8217;s approach to CFS for the past 30 years has been that CFS is nothing more than a form of(or different name for) psychoneurosis. </p>
<p>This attitude continues to this day, with Dr. William Reeves, head of CDC&#8217;s CFS program, appearing on Georgia public tv and saying that CFS occurs as a result of stressful divorces and is due to &#8216;Women being treated differently in society than men are&#8217; which results in &#8216;different stress patterns&#8217; experienced by men and women due to &#8216;women or men’s roles and how they’re functioning in their different parts of society&#8217;.<br />
<a href="http://sacfs.asn.au/news/2009/09/09_26_transcript_dr_reeves.htm" rel="nofollow">http://sacfs.asn.au/news/2009/09/09_26_transcript_dr_reeves.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big thanks to everyone who has commented. I was not expecting the amount of attention this post has received. I will try to respond to some of the comments here but will also be writing another post on the subject soon as I get a chance.

First, I want to thank my daughter (Erynne) for her input and sentiments, which are much appreciated. She had replied to Xand XMRV about hemochromatosis treatment. Although her mother (my wife) was treated by blood removal (phlebotomy or what used to be called bloodletting) and not by blood transfusion, I do think Xand raises a very important point. 

I believe that--as Xand implied--there are some hemochromatosis treatments that do involve blood transfusion and, until we have a much better understanding of XMRV, it would seem prudent to be concerned about transmission of the virus via transfusions (as well as possible contamination in blood handling, needles, etc.). 

I am by no means an expert on our nation&#039;s blood supply, but as far as I can tell in my reading, blood banks have not been screening for XMRV. (If you can add any data on this it would be much appreciated). So if it turns out that XMRV causes CFS or FM or any other disease then we will have a huge problem to deal with.

As for the topics referenced in the comments that Dr. White supplied, it seems I have a lot of catching up to do on the issues surrounding the CDC&#039;s handling of CFS and the various forces at play, like health insurance companies, government health programs, drug companies and good old-fashioned professional egotism. My cursory reading of CFS-related blogs today clearly indicates a huge level of dissatisfaction with the agency&#039;s handling of CFS. 

And my heart goes out to CFS sufferers like Katieann and Naomi. It takes a ton of true grit and determination to keep going when you have this condition. I would be the first to admit that, in the past, I too have been somewhat skeptical about CFS. Not any more. Whether or not it turns out to be caused by XMRV or merely indicated by XMRV, CFS is a very real and very daunting condition, one which our country seems ill-equipped to handle.

I should stress again that I am not a medical expert, and I am NOT saying there is a link between hemochromatosis and CFS or XMRV. However, hemochromatosis can have a negative impact on the immune system and some doctors have theorized that a weak immune system allows or enables CFS. This may be how the classic onset of CFS after a really bad bout of &quot;flu&quot; fits in (about 18 months before we discovered the hemochromatosis, my wife was hit with what she described at the time as the worse flu ever).

Addressing Naomi&#039;s issue of bronze skin, I would definitely talk to your doctor about hemochromatosis, but review some of the following questions beforehand: Do you have Celtic ancestry? Do you have a family history of liver and/or heart disease, among your siblings, your parents, or their siblings? Have you recently hit menopause? Have you had severe and protracted joint pain? I would say that an affirmative on any of these, combined with the bronze skin, could help convince your doctor to take this seriously.

Finally, my thanks to Socco for her input and concern (I will email you Socco). I have to say that one of the most frustrating things about caring for someone with CFS is the lack of things you can do to help, ergo, you feel helpless. The lively, vibrant, dynamic person that you knew is suddenly reduced to bed rest for days at a time, but even that bed rest is not restful.

Let&#039;s all hope that, as several people have suggested, the new light cast on CFS by XMRV will lead to a cure, or at least new treatments and more widespread understanding of this illness.

Stephen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big thanks to everyone who has commented. I was not expecting the amount of attention this post has received. I will try to respond to some of the comments here but will also be writing another post on the subject soon as I get a chance.</p>
<p>First, I want to thank my daughter (Erynne) for her input and sentiments, which are much appreciated. She had replied to Xand XMRV about hemochromatosis treatment. Although her mother (my wife) was treated by blood removal (phlebotomy or what used to be called bloodletting) and not by blood transfusion, I do think Xand raises a very important point. </p>
<p>I believe that&#8211;as Xand implied&#8211;there are some hemochromatosis treatments that do involve blood transfusion and, until we have a much better understanding of XMRV, it would seem prudent to be concerned about transmission of the virus via transfusions (as well as possible contamination in blood handling, needles, etc.). </p>
<p>I am by no means an expert on our nation&#8217;s blood supply, but as far as I can tell in my reading, blood banks have not been screening for XMRV. (If you can add any data on this it would be much appreciated). So if it turns out that XMRV causes CFS or FM or any other disease then we will have a huge problem to deal with.</p>
<p>As for the topics referenced in the comments that Dr. White supplied, it seems I have a lot of catching up to do on the issues surrounding the CDC&#8217;s handling of CFS and the various forces at play, like health insurance companies, government health programs, drug companies and good old-fashioned professional egotism. My cursory reading of CFS-related blogs today clearly indicates a huge level of dissatisfaction with the agency&#8217;s handling of CFS. </p>
<p>And my heart goes out to CFS sufferers like Katieann and Naomi. It takes a ton of true grit and determination to keep going when you have this condition. I would be the first to admit that, in the past, I too have been somewhat skeptical about CFS. Not any more. Whether or not it turns out to be caused by XMRV or merely indicated by XMRV, CFS is a very real and very daunting condition, one which our country seems ill-equipped to handle.</p>
<p>I should stress again that I am not a medical expert, and I am NOT saying there is a link between hemochromatosis and CFS or XMRV. However, hemochromatosis can have a negative impact on the immune system and some doctors have theorized that a weak immune system allows or enables CFS. This may be how the classic onset of CFS after a really bad bout of &#8220;flu&#8221; fits in (about 18 months before we discovered the hemochromatosis, my wife was hit with what she described at the time as the worse flu ever).</p>
<p>Addressing Naomi&#8217;s issue of bronze skin, I would definitely talk to your doctor about hemochromatosis, but review some of the following questions beforehand: Do you have Celtic ancestry? Do you have a family history of liver and/or heart disease, among your siblings, your parents, or their siblings? Have you recently hit menopause? Have you had severe and protracted joint pain? I would say that an affirmative on any of these, combined with the bronze skin, could help convince your doctor to take this seriously.</p>
<p>Finally, my thanks to Socco for her input and concern (I will email you Socco). I have to say that one of the most frustrating things about caring for someone with CFS is the lack of things you can do to help, ergo, you feel helpless. The lively, vibrant, dynamic person that you knew is suddenly reduced to bed rest for days at a time, but even that bed rest is not restful.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all hope that, as several people have suggested, the new light cast on CFS by XMRV will lead to a cure, or at least new treatments and more widespread understanding of this illness.</p>
<p>Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen,
Thanks so very much for this post. I found it through a link that was posted on the CFS forums at Phoenix Rising. I had previously never heard of hemochromatosis, but have been ill with &quot;CFS&quot; for 6 years, and one of my weirder symptoms is a bronze-ish hyperpigmentation in patches on my face, which I was amazed to learn is a classic symptom of hemochromatosis. Thanks to you I am going to look into this more.
Best,
Naomi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen,<br />
Thanks so very much for this post. I found it through a link that was posted on the CFS forums at Phoenix Rising. I had previously never heard of hemochromatosis, but have been ill with &#8220;CFS&#8221; for 6 years, and one of my weirder symptoms is a bronze-ish hyperpigmentation in patches on my face, which I was amazed to learn is a classic symptom of hemochromatosis. Thanks to you I am going to look into this more.<br />
Best,<br />
Naomi</p>
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		<title>By: katieann</title>
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		<dc:creator>katieann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments. Dr. White: A big nod. In 1996, Hewlett-Packard&#039;s insurance carrier United Health, specifically excluded CFS and FM from receiving any long term disability benefits. Long story short, in January 2002, I left the company with nothing in benefits, save an agreement I made under duress not to talk about it, or ever apply for work again with HP, for a sum of a few thousand dollars that was gone in 2 years trying to find a cure. 

The insurance industry is more powerful than the IRS. It sickens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments. Dr. White: A big nod. In 1996, Hewlett-Packard&#8217;s insurance carrier United Health, specifically excluded CFS and FM from receiving any long term disability benefits. Long story short, in January 2002, I left the company with nothing in benefits, save an agreement I made under duress not to talk about it, or ever apply for work again with HP, for a sum of a few thousand dollars that was gone in 2 years trying to find a cure. </p>
<p>The insurance industry is more powerful than the IRS. It sickens me.</p>
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